In this way, I've found that it kind of works opposite from the traditional approach. And if the rolls go well, then there will be progress of some kind, usually based on fiction that's already been established or by the players' stated intent of their actions. The system will produce outcomes by prompting the GM to make moves or to inflict consequences. So they may still wind up finding nothing of use in the billiard room if the rolls don't go their way.but something will happen. In a PbtA/FitD type game, the GM is meant to ask the players why the PCs are investigating the billiard room, and then shape what happens based on those answers and on the results of the rolls. Why waste all that time on something that won't matter? Different GMs may speed this up, others may let it play out as long as it takes.but either way, this seems to be a failing of that kind of system. Literally nothing has changed, and who knows how much time may have been spent on this. Think about this.the end result of searching the billiard room if you succeed at every roll is exactly the same as if you fail at every roll. It's the kind of thing about traditional games that would frustrate me, and ultimately led me to looking at other games. Which then may make you wonder why the GM didn't just say that at the start.and I think that's a good question. Or perhaps the GM may actually say 'After exhausting all efforts, you realize that there is nothing to be found in the billiard room'.

Eventually, once all the possible actions have been attempted and rolls made, the players will decide there's nothing there and move on.

If you mean that in a more traditional game, where the GM has already predetermined who did it and what the clues are that may be discovered that will point the players to the culprit, and then the players for whatever reason are spending their time chasing info in a location that has nothing to do with anything.then yeah, that should not be happening in a PbtA/FitD type game.Ī traditional game doesn't care why the players are searching the billiard room instead of the kitchen or the conservatory, all the traditional game cares about is that there are no clues to be found in the billiard room.they're all in the kitchen and conservatory! I've played and run scenes where the players are just spinning their wheels trying to find something that isn't there.

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